Robert Hak | 019203b | 2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000 | [diff] [blame] | 1 | Q1: Are my batteries charged all the time when connected to my Player/Recorder? |
| 2 | A1: Player: the charging is all done by hardware and the exact |
| 3 | functionality is hard to determine. It is however not recommended to keep |
| 4 | the charger connected for more than 10-15 hours if you're not using the |
| 5 | unit. |
| 6 | |
| 7 | Recorder: no. The charging algorithm is carefully crafted in to not wear |
| 8 | out the batteries any more than necessary. If you're using your unit |
| 9 | connected to the charger most of the time, use the 'deep discharge' option |
| 10 | to save your batteries somewhat. |
| 11 | |
| 12 | Q2: Will keeping my charger connected a long time damage my batteries? Can I |
| 13 | leave it over night? |
| 14 | A2: The charger logic lets the batteries charge until they are full. After |
| 15 | that, the charger is disabled, but the device will stay powered on and |
| 16 | continue to consume some power from the batteries (the hardware does |
| 17 | not allow running from the charger without charging batteries, or |
| 18 | powering off with the charger connected). After some time, it will |
| 19 | start charging the batteries again to keep them full. This will |
| 20 | wear the batteries a little, but overnight charging is what most |
| 21 | people do. |
| 22 | |
| 23 | As the Battery FAQ at http://www.greenbatteries.com/ puts it: |
| 24 | "A NiMH battery can be charged and discharged hundreds of times, |
| 25 | but whether that means 200 times or 800 times has a lot to do |
| 26 | with how (you use it)". |
| 27 | |
| 28 | Q3: Does Rockbox charge the batteries more/less/worse/better than the Archos |
| 29 | firmware? |
| 30 | A3: Player: Rockbox doesn't affect the charging on Players, it is all done |
| 31 | by hardware logic out of software control. |
| 32 | |
| 33 | Recorder: The current release of 1.2 is much worse than the Archos |
| 34 | charger, it tends to stop charging much too early and leave the batteries |
| 35 | half empty. |
| 36 | |
| 37 | The current development code (CVS daily builds as of 20.8.2002) is much |
| 38 | better than the 1.2 release, but still not perfect. Linus recently |
| 39 | measured 6 hours continuous playtime after a rockbox charge, and much |
| 40 | over 7 hours after an Archos charge. We are working on fine-tuning |
| 41 | the charger logic to get the most out of the batteries, but the |
| 42 | emphasis is on not overcharging them, since that would damage the |
| 43 | batteries. Better be safe than sorry. |
| 44 | |
| 45 | Q4: What kind of batteries are there in my factory default Player/Recorder? |
Heikki Hannikainen | 76d4145 | 2002-08-21 13:20:39 +0000 | [diff] [blame^] | 46 | A4: Both ship with 1500 mAh NiMH (Nickel Metal Hybride) batteries. |
Robert Hak | 019203b | 2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000 | [diff] [blame] | 47 | |
| 48 | Q5: Is it hard to change the batteries? Does it void my warranty? |
| 49 | A5: The archos manual and web site describe how to replace the batteries, |
| 50 | so you're supposed to do it. They recommend using only Archos-supplied |
| 51 | batteries, but my Recorder 20 unit only shipped with one set. Some |
| 52 | units have been shipped with two sets of batteries. Someone actually had |
| 53 | Archos send him new batteries free of charge after they had weared out, |
| 54 | under the warranty. (have asked from support-technique@archos.com, |
| 55 | waiting for an answer to arrive!) |
| 56 | |
| 57 | Q6: How much do replacement batteries cost? Where can I buy them? |
| 58 | A6: http://www.greenbatteries.com sells 1800 mAh NiMH cells at $3.25USD each, |
| 59 | and I bought 4 of the same GP batteries for 20 euros in an home |
| 60 | electronics & household appliance store in Finland. NiMH batteries are |
| 61 | sold in almost all shops that sell consumer electronics, and in many |
Heikki Hannikainen | 5dbd4d1 | 2002-08-21 12:43:57 +0000 | [diff] [blame] | 62 | online shops. Browse around. There's a pretty good comparison between |
| 63 | different battery makes and models at the digital imaging resource site: |
| 64 | http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/BATTS/BATTS.HTM |
Robert Hak | 019203b | 2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000 | [diff] [blame] | 65 | |
| 66 | Q7: What kind of run-time can I expect on a set of fully-charged batteries |
| 67 | when running Rockbox? |
| 68 | A7: For the stock 1500 mAh cells, from 6 hours to 8 hours, depending on |
| 69 | which charger was used (see Q3). It depends a lot on the condition of |
| 70 | the batteries. We are looking into implementing more battery-saving |
| 71 | techniques in rockbox to make it rock longer. |
| 72 | |
| 73 | Q8: Can I use different batteries in my Archos? |
| 74 | A8: Only use NiMH-type rechargeable batteries. It is considered to be safe |
| 75 | to use NiMH batteries of different capacities though, a lot of people |
| 76 | have purchaced 1700 or 1800 mAh batteries to replace the stock 1500 mAh |
| 77 | cells and have the device run a bit longer. |
| 78 | |
| 79 | Q9: Can I use non-chargeable batteries in my Archos? |
| 80 | A9: This is not recommended. The unit has been designed to operate with |
| 81 | four 1.2V batteries producing about 4.8V at most, and using 1.5V |
| 82 | alkaline/zinc carbon batteries will produce around 6.0V, which will |
| 83 | heat up the unit a lot more and might even damage it. The Archos |
| 84 | manual explicitly tells you not to do so. |
| 85 | |
| 86 | Q10: Can I use a different charger? |
| 87 | A10: People have successfully used different chargers with similar |
| 88 | specifications as the stock charger. The charger must have the |
| 89 | same kind of connector with same polarity (center positive/+). |
| 90 | The charger should supply at least 7-8 volts, and if it provides |
| 91 | more than 9V, it probably should be current limited (do not |
| 92 | directly plug it in your 12V car battery or it's charger!). |
| 93 | |
| 94 | Using lower charging voltage will slow down the charging, and using |
| 95 | higher voltage will cause a higher charging current, more heat, |
| 96 | and too much heat and current can damage the batteries or the unit. |
| 97 | Using a different charger will void your warranty and can be |
| 98 | dangerous to your unit, so we can not recommend it. |
| 99 | |
| 100 | Many people are happy using an external quick charger which |
| 101 | is specified to work with NiMH batteries. |
| 102 | |
| 103 | Q11: Can I buy a replacement charger exactly as the one Archos shipped? |
| 104 | A11: The FAQ on the Archos web site and the top of the charger both read: |
| 105 | |
| 106 | Output: 9VDC 600mA |
| 107 | Center positive (+) polarity |
| 108 | |
| 109 | Chargers with similar (or user-adjustable) properties are available |
| 110 | at shops selling consumer electronics. |
| 111 | |
| 112 | |
| 113 | Q12: I often need to stop my player for about 15 minutes or so, and when I do |
| 114 | it runs off it's batteries. I was wondering, which is best: shutting the |
| 115 | player down completely and rebooting it when I want to listen again, or |
| 116 | leaving the unit on? Which way does it draw more power? |
| 117 | A12: In our testing we found the following results: |
| 118 | HDD off, LED off, idle 94 mA |
| 119 | HDD off, LED off, play 97 mA |
| 120 | HDD off, LED on, idle 129 mA |
| 121 | HDD off, LED on, play 131 mA |
| 122 | HDD on, LED on, play 230 mA |
| 123 | HD on, reading, LED off ~ 600 mA |
| 124 | HD spin up before read max 800 mA |
| 125 | |
Heikki Hannikainen | 002c4a4 | 2002-08-21 12:27:02 +0000 | [diff] [blame] | 126 | So leaving the unit on and paused consumes ~100mA, and thus much less |
| 127 | than needing to reboot the unit. Your mileage may vary. |
| 128 | |
| 129 | Q13: When I plug the charger in my Recorder, it doesn't immediately start |
| 130 | charging the batteries. And when I plug in the charger when the Recorder |
| 131 | is turned off, it turns itself on and starts charging in the Archos |
| 132 | software? What's up? |
| 133 | A13: There is a switch in the DC IN jack of the Jukebox - when a charger (or |
| 134 | whatever) is plugged in, the unit is powered on, even if the charger |
| 135 | is not plugged in a mains outlet. |
| 136 | |
| 137 | If the charger is providing power at this point, the Archos firmware |
| 138 | located on the FLASH ROM does not load a new firmware version (like |
| 139 | Rockbox) from the disk, but goes into charging mode instead. You can |
| 140 | use this feature to get to the Archos charger if you want to. |
| 141 | |
| 142 | When Rockbox is running on the Recorder (the device has been booted |
| 143 | without the charger) it's power management code runs once per minute |
| 144 | (thus the charge level and charging status is only updated every minute). |
| 145 | If the battery is not full, it will start charging. If the 'deep |
| 146 | discharge' mode is enabled in the settings menu, it will start charging |
| 147 | only when the battery is almost empty. |
| 148 | |
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