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Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +00001Q1. What is a FAQ?
2A1. A rare small animal of the species 'Textius Electronicus'. It is known for
3 its helpful attitude and vicious misspellings.
4
5Q2. Okay, fine, what is _this_ FAQ?
6A2. This FAQ is for questions (that we have answers too) that have been asked
7 repeatedly either in emails or on IRC.
8
9Q3. What is Rockbox? What is it's purpose?
10A3. The purpose of this project is to write an Open Source replacement
11 firmware for the Archos Jukebox 6000, Studio 20 and Recorder MP3 players.
12
13Q4. I want to write code for my Archos, how do I proceed?
Robert Hakdb96b1f2002-08-21 11:06:32 +000014A4. First make sure to read the file CONTRIBUTING in the docs directory
Robert Hak54099ba2002-08-22 07:02:03 +000015 on Sourceforge. See http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/contributing.html
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +000016 if you do not want to have to wade through the CVS directories.
17
Robert Hak09499b52002-08-22 07:03:17 +000018Q5: What is CVS?
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +000019A5: Concurrent Versions System (http://www.cvshome.org). We have a small
20 help page about how to use this to get, update and commit files on the web
21 at http://rockbox.haxx.se/cvs.html
22
23Q6. What exactly is the CONTRIBUTING file?
24A6. Just like the name implies, it lists conventions that the project follows,
25 and in turn asks you to follow, for the formating of source code in
26 general.
27
28Q7. Okay, so I read CONTRIBUTING and although I don't agree with all your
29 conventions, I am going to be sensible and follow them anyway. Now what?
30A7. Start by reading up on the information about the jukeboxes on our web page.
31 Then go into CVS and look at the code we've written. Then take what you
32 need and start writing.
33
34Q8. Okay, so how do I submit a patch?
Björn Stenberg10fc53c2002-08-23 20:49:12 +000035A8. Run: "diff -ub oldfile newfile > patchfile" against the file(s) you have
Robert Hak63bfcef2002-10-01 08:39:48 +000036 changed. Then submit the patch to the project via Sourceforge's patch
37 tracker. See: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=44306&atid=439120
38 Your patch will be taken under consideration. Please remember that all
Björn Stenberg10fc53c2002-08-23 20:49:12 +000039 submissions are not automatically accepted. This is nothing personal.
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +000040
Björn Stenberg10fc53c2002-08-23 20:49:12 +000041 Preferrably, run the diff against the current cvs code:
42 cvs diff -ub > patchfile
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +000043
Robert Hak63bfcef2002-10-01 08:39:48 +000044 One last note. We would appreciate it if *all* patches, files and fixes
45 that are meant for inclusion in the sources would be posted to the patch
46 tracker. Patches sent to the mailing list are quickly lost in the
47 traffic of the list itself. (And looking back in the archives for
48 missed patches quickly becomes a nightmare.)
49
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +000050Q9. I want to join the development team, but don't have a SourceForge account,
51 what should I do?
Björn Stenberg10fc53c2002-08-23 20:49:12 +000052A9. You don't need a SourceForge account to help developing Rockbox. Just
53 submit patches to the mailing list as per the instructions above.
54
55 If your patches are consistently well-written and thus accepted, you may
56 ultimately be offered CVS commit access. If that should happen, you will
57 need to get a Sourceforge account:
58 http://sourceforge.net/account/register.php
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +000059
60Q10. Do you have a mailing list?
61A10. Sure do! As a matter of fact, we have several of them for specific
Robert Hakf5a9a722002-08-21 17:33:56 +000062 things. Please check out: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +000063
64Q11. Great you have a mailing list! Is there anyway for me to catch up on
65 past posts?
Robert Hak16aae472002-08-21 11:22:59 +000066A11. Check out the archives at: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +000067
68Q12. How can I meet the developers working on the project?
69A12. One way is by visiting us on IRC. Head on over to the server
70 irc.openprojects.net, and then join "#rockbox". There is usually at
71 least one person there. If you don't see any activity, feel free to post
72 questions anyway, serveral of us log the channel and will get you answers
73 when we unidle.
74
75Q13: Wow, you guys talk on IRC alot? I wish I had been around for those
76 conversations to see what happened.
77A13: We are glad you mentioned that! http://rockbox.haxx.se/irc happens
78 to have a list of various logs we have recorded of events in the channel.
79 Feel free to read up, and ask questions on what you find.
80
81Q14. What is this "SourceForge" you keep mentioning?
82A14. http://www.sourceforge.net
83
84Q15. Can the changes or the software that Rockbox suggests or offers
85 possibly damage my Archos Player?
86A15. All firmware mods that are presented are still highly experimental.
87 Try them at your own risk. We offer no guarantee that this software, or
88 the hardware modifications we show, will not damage your player or void
89 your warranty. That said, we have not been able to damage any of our
90 units by modifying only the firmware. You can accidentally password
91 protect your harddisk, but there are ways around that. (See below.)
92
93Q16. I want to see what the inside of my player looks like, but I would really
94 like to avoid voiding my warranty. Is there anything you can suggest?
95A16. We have a collection of photos of both the player and recorder. Look at
96 http://rockbox.haxx.se/internals/
97
98Q17. What exactly are you trying to achieve with this line of development?
99 (A.K.A. whats your purpose for being here?)
100A17. Firstly, we wouldn't start something like this if we didn't simply enjoy
101 it profusely. This is great fun!
102 Secondly, we feel the firmware is lacking some features and contain a
103 number of annoying bugs that we want to fix.
104 Some ideas would include (in no particular order):
105 - No pause between songs
106 - Mid-song resume
107 - Mid-playlist resume
108 - No-scan playlists
109 - Unlimited playlist size
110 - Autobuild playlists (ie: "all songs in this directory tree")
111 - Auto-continue play in the next directory
112 - Current folder and all sub-folder random play
113 - Full disk random play
114 - REAL random
115 - Multi song queue
116 - Faster scroll speed
117 - More cool features with the wire remote control (including
118 controlling your Archos from your car radio (req hw mod))
119 - Support playing of other files types (ie: Ogg Vorbis support)
120 - Support for megabass switch (req hw mod)
121 - Player control via USB
122 - Memory expansion?
123 Note: Just because something is on this list, does not mean that it is
Robert Hakf5a9a722002-08-21 17:33:56 +0000124 technically feasible. (But hey we can dream) And something not
125 being on the list does not mean it isn't a neat idea. Bring it to
126 the list.
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000127
Björn Stenberg92408562002-09-07 12:13:40 +0000128Q18. You mention supporting Ogg Vorbis and other file types on your list of
129 ideas. What is the status on that?
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000130A18. Pessimist's Answer: At the current time we belive this is not very likely
131 The Micronas chip (MAS3507) decoder in the archos does not natively
132 support decoding and there is very little program space in the player to
133 implement it ourselves. The alternative would be to write a software
134 decoder as part of the RockBox firmware. However, as much as we love
135 our players, the computing power of the Archos (SH1 microcontroller) is
136 not fully sufficent for this need.
137
138 Optimist's Answer: We can play any format if only we can write code for
139 the DSP to decode it. The MAS 3507 (and 3587) are generic DSPs that
140 simply have MP3 codecs in ROM. We can download new codecs in them and
141 we will be the first to celebrate if we can get OGG or FLAC or anything
142 into these DSPs. Unfortunately, we have no docs or tools for writing new
143 MAS DSP code and Intermetall is very secretive about it. If anyone can
144 help, please get in touch!
145
Björn Stenberg92408562002-09-07 12:13:40 +0000146 The recent release of Tremor (integer Ogg decoder) indicates it uses
147 around 100 KB for lookup tables. That's not unreasonable for a decoder,
148 but we only have 4 KB for both code *and* data. So the grim reality is
149 that Ogg will never be supported by the Archos Players and Recorders.
150
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000151Q19. What about supporting playing of WMA files?
Robert Hak54099ba2002-08-22 07:02:03 +0000152A19. Dear Mr. Gates, you have two options. Re-read question #18, or go buy
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000153 your own project.
154
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000155Q20: But you don't understand, I'm not talking about decoding here,
156 since the data we want may already be in the decoded format (PCM).
157A20: Okay, last time. No. We have no problems whatsoever reading different
158 file formats, call it PCM, WAV, GRI, PQR or whatever. The problem is
159 that the CODEC only accepts MP3 data and nothing else. We could write a
160 new CODEC if we knew how to do it, but there is no documentation on the
161 DSP. Please note that we have no access to the DAC, so we can't send the
162 data directly to the DAC.
163
164Q21. What is the most recent version of Rockbox?
Robert Haka0f9f622002-10-12 04:23:05 +0000165A21. We recently released version 1.4, so head on over to
Robert Hak7bf657a2002-08-28 09:45:09 +0000166 http://rockbox.haxx.se/download/ and pull it down.
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000167 Make sure to read the release notes.
Robert Haka0f9f622002-10-12 04:23:05 +0000168 (http://rockbox.haxx.se/download/rockbox-1.4-notes.txt).
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000169
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000170Q22. What do you plan to add to coming versions?
171A22. We have a rough idea of which features we plan/expect/hope to be included
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000172 in which versions. Once again, remember that none of this is written in
173 stone (noticing a pattern yet?)
174
Robert Haka0f9f622002-10-12 04:23:05 +0000175 Version 2.0
176 Recording, Autobuild playlists, File/directory management
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000177
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000178Q23. I tried one of your firmware files and now I can't access my harddisk!
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000179 When I turn on my jukebox, it says:
180 Part. Error
181 Pls Chck HD
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000182A23. Your harddisk has been password protected. We're not 100% sure why it
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000183 happens, but you can unlock it yourself. Look at:
184 http://rockbox.haxx.se/lock.html
185
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000186Q24: This FAQ doesn't answer the question I have. What should I do?
187A24: You have a couple options here. You could forget the question, find an
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000188 easier question, or accept '42' as the answer no matter what. We don't
189 really recommend any of these (though I do opt for '42' often myself).
190 What we do recommend is stopping by IRC, reading
191 http://rockbox.haxx.se to see if the question was answered else
192 where and just not included here, or ultimatly dropping an email to the
193 mailing list (rockbox@cool.haxx.se) or the FAQ maintainer listed on the
194 project homepage.
195
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000196Q25: Are there other ways to contact the developers?
197A25: Yes.
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000198
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000199Q26: Are you going to tell us what they are?
200A26: No. Post to the mailing list and we will get back to you.
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000201
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000202Q27: But I _really_ want to talk with you in person.
203A27: I'm sorry. My girlfriend/boyfriend/pet says I'm not allowed to, and the
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000204 doctors here won't let me have pens or pencils. They say its some rule
205 about us not having sharp objects. I'm sorry. Now please stop calling me
206 here.
207
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000208Q28: Will you ever port Quake II to the Archos?
209A28: If you ask that again, I'm sending your address and phone number to the
Robert Hakd2fb0a02002-08-29 14:52:02 +0000210 guy that mailed us with question #25.
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000211
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000212Q29: Umm, was that sarcasm?
213A29: That's it, I'm mailing him now.
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000214
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000215Q30: Is this legal? I mean, I'd just hate to see something like that
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000216 challenged under the DMCA in all its ridiculousness. Any thoughts or
217 ideas?
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000218A30: We believe we are in the green on this. We are not violating anyone's
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000219 copyright and we are not circumventing any copy protection scheme.
220 This has been a big point for the project since its inception. Some
221 people wanted us to distribute patched versions of the original firmware,
222 but seeing as that _would_ have violated Archos' copyright, we didn't
223 follow that course of action.
224
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000225Q31: On the website [and various information postings] you state
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000226 "Every tiny bit was reverse engineered, disassembled and then
227 re-written from scratch".
228 If it was rewritten from scratch then why was it first reverse-engineered
229 and disassembled? Instead this sounds more like someone disassembled it
230 then used the understanding that they gained to create a new version,
231 which is not quite the same as "from scratch".
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000232A31: Don't confuse the terms. Reverse engineering means examining a product
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000233 to find out how it works. Disassembling the firmware is merely one tool
234 used in that examination. Oscilloscopes and logic analyzers are other
235 tools we have used. We have written every single byte of the Rockbox
236 firmware. But we could not have written the software without first
237 researching how the hardware was put together, i.e. reverse engineer it.
238 All of this is completely legal. If you define "from scratch" as writing
239 software without first researching the surrounding interfaces, then no
240 software has ever been written from scratch.
241
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000242Q32: Wait a minute here. When you released version 1.0 you did not have a
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000243 single one of the ideas you have mentioned on your website actually
244 implimented! Calling this version 1.0 is really misleading. Whats the
245 story?!
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000246A32: In simple terms, the first release was called 1.0 because it had a basic
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000247 working feature set that worked and had no known bugs. That is what 1.0
248 meant. It is true that Rockbox 1.0 lacked most of the feature set that
249 every sane user wanted. However, we never said it was more
Robert Hak11f2c3c2002-08-24 03:52:01 +0000250 feature-complete or better in any way then the original firmware that
251 early in the project. The first release was done as a proof of concept
252 that our ideas are moving in the right direction. We also hoped that it
253 would help bring the project some attention, and some additional
254 developers. Adding the missing features was just a matter of time. In
255 more recent releases we have completed many of our desired goals, and
256 several new ones that were implimented to fullfill user requests.
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000257
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000258Q33: I've heard talk of a 'Rolo'. What is that? (Or 'All you ever wanted
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000259 to know about Rockbox boot loaders')
Robert Haka0f9f622002-10-12 04:23:05 +0000260A33: Rolo is our bootloader. Rolo became available with our 1.4 release.
261 To make use of Rolo, you must have a file with the same extension as
262 your Rockbox firmware (.ajz on Recorder, .mod on Player) but a different
263 name. You can then browse to it, and you 'run' the other firmware
264 you wish to switch to by pressing play.
Robert Hak9756cb02002-09-03 19:41:49 +0000265
266 *Poof* You will reboot to that firmware. (Note that in order to return
267 to Rockbox you may need to reboot manually if the new firmware you loaded
268 does not have a bootloader itself.)
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000269
Björn Stenbergf2b8aec2002-10-22 20:23:16 +0000270Q34: Can I use the Archos as an USB harddisk to store data from my PDA/
271 digital camera/phone etc.
272A34: No. USB is a master/slave protocol, and both the Archos and your device
273 are slaves. Two slaves cannot communicate without a master (usually a PC).
274 (An upcoming extension called USB On-The-Go will let slaves communicate
275 without a master, but current Archoses will not be able to support that.)
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000276
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000277Q35: When I use RockBox my jukebox's red "error" light turns on a lot, but this
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000278 doesn't happen on the factory firmware. Why?
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000279A35: Rockbox uses the red LED as harddisk activity light, not as an error
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000280 light. Relax and enjoy the music.
281
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000282Q36: I have a question about the batteries...
283A36: STOP! We have put together a completely different FAQ for battery
Robert Hak35c04802002-08-21 11:07:28 +0000284 related questions.
285 Check out: http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/battery-faq.html
Robert Hak019203b2002-08-21 10:36:05 +0000286
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000287Q37: What is the WPS?
288A37: That is the 'While Playing Screen'. Basically this is what is shown on
Robert Hakfac78522002-08-22 03:00:12 +0000289 your player's display while we are playing your song.
290
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000291Q38: What good is the WPS? How usable/flexible is it?
292A38: It is very good if you want information about the current item playing ;)
293 By using a WPS configuration file you can manage exactly how/what you
294 want displayed on your Archos Player. (Even better yet, if you want
295 a feature that's not there, we are _always_ open to suggestions!)
296 Please see http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/wps.html for information.
Robert Hakfac78522002-08-22 03:00:12 +0000297
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000298Q39: So how do I load/make a .wps file?
299A39: You check out http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/custom_wps_format.html to learn
300 the format/features of a .wps file, and you visit
301 http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/wps.html to learn how to load it ;)
302
303Q40: Does Rockbox support other languages?
304A40: Sure do. See the next question.
305
306Q41: How do I load/use different languages? (Recorder-only)
307A41: In the sense of brevity (wouldn't that be a first), check out:
308 http://rockbox.haxx.se/lang
309
310Q42: Why can't I use other languages on the Player?
311A42: See the answer to question 45.
312
313Q43: Does Rockbox support other fonts/character sets?
314A43: Yuppers. See the next question.
315
316Q44: How do I use the loadable fonts? (Recorder-only)
317A44: That's and easy one. To use a loadable font you load it.
318 For less sarcasm check out: http://rockbox.haxx.se/fonts/
319
320Q45: Why can't I use loadable fonts on the Player?
321A45: This is because the Player font is character cell based (as opposed to
322 the Recorder's bitmap based display). This
Robert Hak0dbcb432002-08-26 23:58:05 +0000323 means that we are able to choose what characters to display, but not how
324 to display them. We do have the ability to change/create up to 4 chars
325 on one model and 8 on another, however we are currently using several of
326 these 'letters' to store icons for the player.
327
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000328Q46: Why don't you have any games available for the Players?
329A46: The display on the Players is character cell and not bitmap based.
Robert Hak0dbcb432002-08-26 23:58:05 +0000330 This means we can only control what characters get displayed, not
331 what pixels are shown. This makes the prospect of game play very
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000332 slim (at least for anything involving graphics, so if you have text
333 based games that only use 2 lines send them on in!).
Robert Hak5d3a0d32002-08-27 13:50:00 +0000334
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000335Q47: I keep shutting off my player in my pocket. Can the OFF (Recorder) or
336 STOP (Player) key be locked?
337A47: No. Unfortunately, the ON/OFF mechanisms are handled entirely in
338 hardware. The firmware can read the keys, but can't prevent them from
339 shutting off the player.
340
341Q48: Where's the recording option? Why can't I record?!!
342A48: I'd like to say we hid it because we don't like you, but you seem to be
343 a good person so here's the truth. It's just not implimented in Rockbox
344 yet. But stress not, you can still use Rolo to boot the default Archos
345 firmware and record from there. (Check out question #33).
346
347Q49: When recording is finally implimented in Rockbox, will it be possible to
Robert Hak5d3a0d32002-08-27 13:50:00 +0000348 use custom codecs (like LAME) or is there a built in codec in the Archos?
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000349A49: The MP3 encoder is in the MAS3587F chip, and nothing we can change.
Robert Hak5d3a0d32002-08-27 13:50:00 +0000350
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000351Q50: What are the max/min bitrates for recording on the Recorder's encoder?
352A50: The builtin encoder is variable bit rate only with a max of 192kbit/s,
Robert Hak5d3a0d32002-08-27 13:50:00 +0000353 and a min of 32kbit/s.
354
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000355Q51: Would it be possible to record from line in on the player?
356A51: No.
357
358Q52: I have a question about the id3v1 and id3v2 tags...
359A52: Stop! Here is all the information about that (if you still have
Robert Hak5d3a0d32002-08-27 13:50:00 +0000360 questions when done, ask then.)
361
Robert Hakccedcdb2002-08-27 14:29:02 +0000362 - Rockbox supports both id3v1 and id3v2
Björn Stenberg3478d9b2002-08-27 22:20:14 +0000363
Robert Hakccedcdb2002-08-27 14:29:02 +0000364 - The id3v2 support is limited to the first 300 bytes of the file. Some
Björn Stenberg3478d9b2002-08-27 22:20:14 +0000365 ripper programs tend to add very big tags first and then the important
366 ones Rockbox wants to read end up beyond the first 300 bytes and then
367 they remain unknown.
368
Robert Hakccedcdb2002-08-27 14:29:02 +0000369 - If you believe that the tags you don't see *are* within 300 bytes, then
Björn Stenberg3478d9b2002-08-27 22:20:14 +0000370 please make the mp3 file available for one of the developers to try out.
371
Robert Hakccedcdb2002-08-27 14:29:02 +0000372 - The 300-byte limit is subject to be removed in a future version
Robert Hak7f7851a2002-08-27 14:14:18 +0000373
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000374Q53: Where exactly did the name 'Rockbox' come from?
375A53: Well you can follow the full line of emails at
Robert Hakd4d71d12002-08-27 16:40:32 +0000376 http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-01/0062.shtml
377 However, the brief rundown is that it was recommended first by
378 Tome Cvitan, and put to a vote (which it lost).
379
380 Funny thing about democracys. This isn't one ;) Our beloved project
Björn Stenberg92408562002-09-07 12:13:40 +0000381 leader vetoed the winning name and chose Rockbox instead.
Robert Hakd4d71d12002-08-27 16:40:32 +0000382 http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-01/0134.shtml
383
Björn Stenberg3478d9b2002-08-27 22:20:14 +0000384 There you have it. Recommeded by users, decision by dictator.
Robert Hak49c2fda2002-08-29 13:36:05 +0000385
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000386Q54: Why is there a limit of 400 files in a directory?
387A54: We have answered this question numerous times. It is mentioned in the
Robert Hak9756cb02002-09-03 19:41:49 +0000388 release notes, and in the mailing list archives
389 (http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-08/0448.shtml).
390 But, hey, we wouldn't want people to have to work to get an answer.
391 (If you are reading this, feel proud, for you are the exception).
392
393 We settled on 400 files in a directory because file listings take up
394 memory on the unit, and we felt that 400 is significantly large enough
Björn Stenberg92408562002-09-07 12:13:40 +0000395 for a majority of the populace. We prefer the option of limiting
Robert Hak9756cb02002-09-03 19:41:49 +0000396 file limits in order to provide a greater amount of memory for buffering
397 of files being played.
398
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000399Q55: Okay, I understand your 400 file limit. But why hardcode? Why not
Robert Hak9756cb02002-09-03 19:41:49 +0000400 have this be dynamically allocated?
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000401A55: Because it's useless. Dynamic memory is only ever useful if you have
Robert Hak9756cb02002-09-03 19:41:49 +0000402 memory consumers (tasks) that run at different points in time, and thus
403 can reuse the same memory for different purposes.
404
405 We don't have that. We must be able to show a big dir, index a big
406 playlist and play a big mp3 file, all at the same time. They cannot use
407 the same memory, and thus dynamic memory buys us nothing but extra
408 complexity. If we used dynamic memory for this, we would get all kinds
409 of odd bugs. Playlists that only got half-loaded if placed in certain
Robert Haka0f9f622002-10-12 04:23:05 +0000410 directories. Parts of the disk you couldn't go to if playing a certain
Robert Hak9756cb02002-09-03 19:41:49 +0000411 playlist etc.
412
413 We have a number of tasks that consume memory. They can all run at the
414 same time, using all of their alotted memory. Therefore it is much better
415 to allocate that memory to them beforehand and not pretend that anyone
416 else is able to use it. This is standard practice in memory-limited
417 systems.
418
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000419Q56: Why is there a 10,000 song limit on playlists?
420A56: This is another hardcoded limit. We feel that as bigger disks arrive
Robert Hak9756cb02002-09-03 19:41:49 +0000421 that this limit will increase. Because of the way that playlists are
422 stored, it tends to be a bit more maleable then the directory file limit.
423 For further detail, look at questions 47 and 48 and replace any instances
424 of '200' with '10,000'.
425
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000426Q57: You don't understand! I _really_ need to have more then 400 files
Robert Hak9756cb02002-09-03 19:41:49 +0000427 in a directory!
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000428A57: The use of really big directories was a workaround for the poor playlist
Björn Stenberg1d8ac3e2002-09-07 09:58:00 +0000429 capabilities of the original Archos firmware. With Rockbox, you no longer
Robert Haka0f9f622002-10-12 04:23:05 +0000430 need this workaround. Organize your files in directories, then build
Björn Stenberg1d8ac3e2002-09-07 09:58:00 +0000431 playlists for all collections you want to shuffle-play.
Robert Hak9756cb02002-09-03 19:41:49 +0000432
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000433Q58: How can I make playlists on my PC?
434A58: There are many programs that can create .m3u playlists. WinAmp is one.
Björn Stenberg1d8ac3e2002-09-07 09:58:00 +0000435 Another simple method, that requires no extra software, is to use dir:
436
Björn Stenberg361546d2002-09-07 18:07:29 +0000437 dir /b /s X:\ > X:\allfiles.m3u
438 dir /b /s X:\Pop > X:\pop.m3u
439
440 ...where X: is your archos drive.
Björn Stenberg1d8ac3e2002-09-07 09:58:00 +0000441
442 Linux users can use the 'find' command:
443
444 cd /mnt/archos
445 find . -name "*.mp3" > all.m3u
446
447 Remember that playlists are simple text files. You can edit them with any
448 normal text editor.
Robert Hakc5740ad2002-09-04 08:24:11 +0000449
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000450Q59: How does the shuffle work?
451A59: It sees the playlist as a deck of cards, shuffling the entries using a
Linus Nielsen Feltzing4854a2c2002-09-18 09:25:55 +0000452 pseudo-random generator called the Mersenne Twister. After shuffling,
453 the list is never changed again until you reshuffle the list, by
454 stopping the playback and restarting. If the repeat mode is enabled,
455 the list will simply start over from the first file again, without
456 reshuffling.
457 The random seed is stored in the persistent setting area, so that the
458 resume feature can shuffle the playlist in exactly the same way when
459 resuming.
Robert Hakcd3efa62002-10-01 08:58:56 +0000460
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000461Q60: How can I find out about all the neat features that Rockbox has?
462A60: This information is in our manual (It sometimes gets a bit out of
463 date, so please bear with us.) The information you are most likely
464 looking for is a bit down the tree, so the here is the url:
465 http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/rec-general.html
466
467Q61: How can I see what bugs are currently open/being worked on?
468A61: Check out http://rockbox.haxx.se/bugs.shtml for a listing of bugs
Robert Hakcd3efa62002-10-01 08:58:56 +0000469 that have been reported.
470
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000471Q62: How can I report about bugs in Rockbox?
472A62: If we were better programmers we would take that as an insult. But we
Robert Hakcd3efa62002-10-01 08:58:56 +0000473 aren't, so we won't. The first step in reporting a bug is to review
474 the rules we ask you to follow in your submission (listed at:
475 http://rockbox.haxx.se/bugs.shtml#rules).
476
477 Please note that we ask reports of bugs in CVS/daily builds to be sent
478 to the mailing list, and bugs in released versions of Rockbox to be
479 submitted through SourceForge's bug tracker. (A link to the bug tracker
480 can be found under our bug submission rules.)
Linus Nielsen Feltzing180485c2002-10-01 09:37:34 +0000481
Robert Hakd7529d82002-10-14 10:56:47 +0000482Q63: Could you tell me how to apply a patch?
483A63: There are a ton of ways to apply a patch. One way is to use the (GNU)
Robert Hak57bf2ca2002-10-12 08:34:57 +0000484 'patch' program. It used like this:
485
486 $ cd rockbox-root
487 $ patch < magic.patch
488
489 Sometimes, the diff has path info you want to strip so that patch can
490 find your file names. -p then takes off a number of "path parts" from
491 left:
492
493 $ patch -p0 < magic.patch
494 - or -
495 $ patch -p1 < magic.patch
496
497 If patch can't apply some changes that are in the diff, you'll get those
498 particular changes in a file named "[source-file].rej".
Robert Hake6477682002-10-17 09:48:47 +0000499
Robert Hake1d51532002-10-17 10:16:58 +0000500Q64: Whats with all the different versions of Rockbox?
501A64: There are really only two versions of Rockbox. One for Players and one
502 for Recorders. However, we do have 3 other 'versions' of Rockbox
503 available for download. These would be Releases, Daily Builds, and
504 Bleeding Edge.
Robert Hake6477682002-10-17 09:48:47 +0000505
Robert Hake1d51532002-10-17 10:16:58 +0000506 The Release version (currently 1.4) has a fixed feature set. This means
507 that we are confident that few, if any, significant bugs still reside
508 within the code/features of that 'version'. This is the version for the
509 common user.
Robert Hake6477682002-10-17 09:48:47 +0000510
Robert Hake1d51532002-10-17 10:16:58 +0000511 The Daily Builds (see: http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml#target_builds)
512 are automated daily builds of the CVS code. As such they contain all
513 the new features (and bugs ;) ) that have been introduced after the
514 last official release, and upto and including that morning.
Robert Hake6477682002-10-17 09:48:47 +0000515
Robert Hake1d51532002-10-17 10:16:58 +0000516 The Bleeding Edge 'versions' are automated builds that are updated
517 every 20 minutes or so. This are as feature full and bug ridden as you
518 can possibly get if you are not a developer, or are not pulling directly
519 from the CVS tree.
520
521 Please Note: Daily and Bleeding Edge builds are expected to be buggy.
522 We ask that you _do not_ submit bug reports for Bleeding Edge versions,
523 but would love to hear any reports you may have about Release or Daily
524 build versions. (see question #62).
525
Robert Hakab0641a2002-10-18 15:59:24 +0000526Q65: I am in Windows and can't create a .rockbox directory to store my
527 files. When are you going to fix this?
528A65: We won't. The limitations of your operating system is not reason
529 enough for us to change how we handle things. And you _can_ create
530 this directory. Open a command line and type:
531 mkdir j:\.rockbox
Robert Hakb1ee36e2002-10-19 04:51:44 +0000532 You will need to correct the location for the drive letter that Windows
533 assigns to your drive.
Robert Hake1d51532002-10-17 10:16:58 +0000534
Robert Hakb1ee36e2002-10-19 04:51:44 +0000535Q66: I own a Mac. I can't seem to create the .rockbox file. Can you
536 fix this?
537A66: Truth is, we don't need to fix anything. If you are using OSX then you
538 can just open a console, change directories to the device and just:
539 mkdir .rockbox
540
541 If you are in another version then you should be able to do command-N in
542 the Finder, then name the folder.
Björn Stenbergf2b8aec2002-10-22 20:23:16 +0000543